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Graphics to create PLR products

  • #264361
    Ngoc Nguyen@nancy1125
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    I’m not sure if this has been answered, and I tried to comb through the forum before asking the question again, but didn’t see it.

    I’m so at a lost when it comes to proper usage of commercial use graphics that I buy from Creative Markets and other graphics sellers. I currently use them in my products to sell in my etsy store for personal use.

    Am I correct in saying you can’t use any of these commercial use graphics from the market places like above in PLR products? You have to either create your own or use public domain cliparts, such as the ones from Pixabay or Open Clipart?

    Can someone please clarify how to proper use clipart and where to purchase them.

    I think I will just create or hire my own artist just so I don’t get into legal issues over the use of other people’s clipart.

    My-Ngoc

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    Suraj Bhatt@suraj-bhatt
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    #264427
    Angela@cddiva
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    Hi Nancy,
    welcome to the fold lol….

    If you are hiring, depending on your needs, I could be available :)

    Your questions however, are completely up my alley. Let’s try to take this in steps.

    I’m not sure if this has been answered, and I tried to comb through the forum before asking the question again, but didn’t see it.

    First off, thanks for taking the time to look first.

    I’m so at a lost when it comes to proper usage of commercial use graphics that I buy from Creative Markets and other graphics sellers. I currently use them in my products to sell in my etsy store for personal use.

    What you have described above, is a fine line. You must be absolutely sure you have read and understand the terms of the license in each case, as “commercial use” graphics, generally come with many rules and restrictions. Selling them for personal use is usually the way you are allowed, unless terms are written with extended permissions, and each website and artist, should you be buying from them directly, each has their own.

    Generally, if you buy and use something marked “commercial use” it means you can use it to make or create NEW ART OR GRAPHICS. This means your clip art, for instance, must be meshed, merged, with other elements, and your own artistic twist, to resell clip art or art, unless stated otherwise.
    So be careful to read each artists terms, (or the websites) and be sure you understand them individually. If you don’t understand someone’s terms, Ask Them!

    Am I correct in saying you can’t use any of these commercial use graphics from the market places like above in PLR products? You have to either create your own or use public domain cliparts, such as the ones from Pixabay or Open Clipart?

    WOW! The above question is so full of wrongs lol. Let me clarify!

    1: Yes you are correct in the fact that you can not use these products in a PLR, MRR, RR, or any other resale, including giving them away, except for personal use (again read each products terms)

    2: True, you can use (I say can, and will explain further down) public domain, or create your own.

    3: Pixabay and Open ClipArt ARE NOT Public Domain image sites. Do not trust that someone claims they are releasing “their” work to the public domain, unless you are actually on a verified public domain site, such at Gutenberg Project. The people sharing on the sites you mentioned, some are actually sharing their original work, and that’s great, they want or need exposure (read and ask questions), but the majority are not artists, nor even photographers, and in too many cases NOT the original owners etc., (third party sharing in some cases) or have reworked some art that was shared, and are now sharing it again (sometimes the original can get lost in transition, and was not meant to be PD at all) so no, even at the aforementioned, Pixabay and OCA, you must be extremely careful.

    Can someone please clarify how to proper use clipart and where to purchase them.

    I can give you a few only that I know are completely legit, Gutenberg Project, and Dover Books. There are plenty like them out there, those are 2 I use frequently. Anything your search results may yield, again, always read carefully and ask questions if things are not spelled out thoroughly.

    I think I will just create or hire my own artist just so I don’t get into legal issues over the use of other people’s clipart.

    If you have artistic abilities, yes, this is the way to be sure you are creating something totally original. If you hire someone, be sure you retain control of the design, and not them.

    But honestly, finding art etc, you can use for PLR, it is definitely out there, you just have to search it up. There are some packs here as well, that you might find, some PU, but some also marked PLR or MRR…

    Altho I am an artist myself, if you are doing an awful lot in your business by yourself, it honestly helps to save some time, so don’t despair, and don’t give up, just change the way and where you look for it or buy it from. In my business, I sometimes use shortcuts, but much is made by me, or so unrecognizable, that it is new art. I have also sold limited packages from time to time, of my own personal art, or my partners who is currently doing most of the photography, which is also sometimes packaged with extended privileges as well.

    Anyhow, it is good you came here and asked these questions, and any way I can help answer your future questions, I am also here.


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    #264434
    Ngoc Nguyen@nancy1125
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    wow! Thanks Angela for taking the time to answer my questions in great details. And I love your sense of humor, especially when you told me my question is “full of wrongs”. I think that was meant to be funny?! LOL.

    Even when I use commercial use images I email the website or seller to confirm and re-confirm. Canva I find to have the most confusing license on their commercial use elements. And they don’t answer in plan yes or no when you give them an example. They usually refer you to their license that is confusing as hell.

    I have confirmed with my favorite illustrators that their commercial/extended commercial license do not include PLR product. And if these illustrators put their stuff onto a market place like Creative Market, then I would have to follow creative market’s license and not the artist. So it does get confusing because one artist can have it on Creative Market, Hungry Jpg, Freepik and their licenses can be different.
    Speaking of which, how do you feel about Freepik? I don’t hear people recommend them a lot for commercial use (not PLR), but they have lots of great graphics and templates.

    You are so right about Pixabay and OPen cliparts. I normally email the person that posted the images or graphics just to make sure. And just by looking through their gallery and their consistency use of media, I can tell they are the original artist.

    I’ve seen so many people just use Pixabay images as is and make crazy amount of money on Etsy. It makes me boil and then I start to question if I can actually do that too. They didn’t do anything to make it their own, and I’m working hard to try and follow the rule. But I find it interesting that sites, such as Canva and Picmonkey uses Pixabay/Pexel for some of their mockups and graphics.

    I must be honest here and say that most of the graphics I find people use in their PLR products are NOT SO PRETTY or really bad quality. This might be due to maybe them thinking that people will replace those with their own graphics anyway?

    This makes me really want to create beautiful graphics to share with just the PLR world and eliminate all the crazy rules, except “You can use the graphics in PLR product, but not sell the original graphic file”.

    I do have a friend who is a great watercolor artist, that I might hire her to create some graphics for me. Hopefully, she will agree. And maybe with my mommy doodles and her watercolor graphics we can make the PLR world a prettier place. LOL

    Do you know of the exact wording of what I should include in a contract stating that I retain the rights to the designs, not her?

    Do you have a personal page of your art? I would love to see them.

    Thanks again for being so helpful!! I’m so glad I came to this forum and found you! :)

    #264435
    Angela@cddiva
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    I feel about Freepik, the same way as Pixabay, but to be even clearer about Freepik, I do not buy or use anything (art, graphics, content) that I can not use at the very least as RR, but I go for the MRR and PLR, as well as the CU4CU (commercial use 4 commercial use in art world and scrapping speak) otherwise for me it is pointless.

    The PLR world is very mixed up at this time. The last 10 years we’ve seen a lot of newbies coming into the content niche, claiming the printables niche as something new. The “printables and content niche” has been here since conception lol… This has included a lot of what you see on Etsy for instance, such as planners, journals, and even KDP content, which is VERY CLEARLY NOT PLR, even though these folks are tagging the term on everything in sight.

    If you read their terms closely, you will see among their terms, you CAN NOT sell what you create, for anything other than personal use. This is NOT PLR! it is Commercial Use! They have claimed the term, and bastardized it to an unrecognizable melting pot.

    This is a subject that irks the bleeding hell out of me.

    If you would like to know what REAL PLR is, altho even the old seasoned players word things their own way sometimes,, it all boils down to one thing, if it is real “old school”, then the terms are easy to follow as Daniel has laid them out as simple as can be here,
    https://www.plrdatabase.net/licenses/

    Exact wording, my suggestion is to simply tell your designer that you want to be sure to retain rights to what you pay for, meaning 1, they can not resell the design to another, and 2, you have the right to use it freely forever. Those are the most important things.

    If you follow the PLAN YOUR LIFE IN COLOR link below my comments, you can find a multitude of my websites, stores, and galleries linked to that site.


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    #264471
    Ngoc Nguyen@nancy1125
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    Angela. So interesting that you mentioned Canva licenses are only for personal use! I used to think that Canva was mainly used for promotional purposes, like creating Pinterest pins for your etsy shop or blog. But then start to see people selling templates and then printables using Canva’s graphics. I’ve bought so many courses that involves only the use of Canva for commercial use printables (NOT PLR). And I’ve emailed Canva so many times and they say and everyone else say you can use their free elements (graphics ) to create commercial use products.

    I’m always weary of Canva, but I keep coming back to it because I do like their ease of use, but I guess I should really go back to Affinity Designer or Adobe Illustrator for my printables.

    Daniel’s licenses are definitely simple. I like that.

    And you have lots of websites. Interesting that you say you can resell the PLR product with private label rights to the customers. So basically if I love your fairy coloring graphics, I can sell it as is as a coloring activity download for personal use (changing the covers, like you stated) or I can resell that fair coloring activity to my customer for PLR rights? (I’ve read to many licenses so my brain does not process these things well!). Kinda like what I want to do with my watercolor artist friend. Basically it’s mine to do as I see fit since I now own it.

    That is interesting because most of the ones I see say you can only resell it for personal use to your customers.

    #264472
    Angela@cddiva
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    I don’t remember mentioning Canva myself in these posts, but I don’t care for them, and yeah, would definitely be careful with them.

    With my PLR that you mentioned (the Fairies) yes it is PLR, but you can not resell as PLR nor sell or give away the source files. In the case of this product, you can do everything but resell as PLR… you can resell as MRR and down the line…. You do get the PPTX files, so you can create a new PDF that is not branded, but as above, only sell as MRR, and your customers can be given MRR rights if you choose, or personal use only, your choice.

    I do have some PLR that is as you mentioned above, but I am trying to now separate those products to their own niche sites, hence GreenContentPLR.com and WhiteBirdContent.com are both PLR and MRR product sites.

    As I said, each product should be read over, as sometimes there may be variations. I see I forgot to add the terms on the page as I did some others, but in any case, my own personal PLR products will sometimes give you extended PLR rights, such as you mentioned, but will ALWAYS give you MRR at the very least, if they are marked PLR.

    Below is a copy of the license terms for the Fairies.

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    #264596
    Ngoc Nguyen@nancy1125
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    Hi angela.

    So for the fairies, “convey mrr to your customer” means I would have to create a new product with the fairies then sell that to my customers to resell. But not give PLR rights where they can rebrand the fairies themselves as theirs or have access to the original files?

    Btw, you have “you customers” instead of “your Customers” twice In your license. Just in case you are not aware. :)

    #264600
    Angela@cddiva
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    yes, you are allowed in this case, to either resell the PDF included AS IS to your customers as MRR with no changes, or use the source files to create (add, remove, completely change) a new product with your own images. Yes you can sell either to your customers as MRR, but anything you resell has to be in a flattened form, such as a PDF or JPG where the images and content, can not be extracted by your customer.

    Yeah I seem to drop the r a lot lol, not sure why I do that, but thank you for pointing it out.


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